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I hate big tech controlling social media. I desperately want social media to be federated.

I really love community-driven social media like Reddit. Lemmy feels… too small. I really loved that Reddit let me jump into any niche hobby, and instantly I had a community. Lemmy, you’ll be lucky if that community even exists, and if it does, chances are nobody has posted in ages.

On the other hand, Lemmy is full of political content lately. I’ve basically been doom scrolling everything US election-related, and it’s really starting to take a toll on my mental health.

I know I can filter content. I know I can post and be the change I seek. Yet, it feels like an uphill battle.

Not sure what the point of this is, or if it’s even the right community to vent about this. I just really want to replace Reddit, but I find myself going back more and more (e.g. r/homekit is very active compared to Lemmy version).

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 minutes ago

You're right in one sense; the community is small and can have an echo chamber effect like any "small village." But you can also try other instances, or other Fediverse things or start your own. It goes like this; Reddit had success because they served you interesting things on a silver platter, using extensive venture capital to make it as slick and addictive and popular as possible. Lemmy is not built on capital, at least not on the same scale as Reddit; it is built on labor. You gotta decide what your ideal is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 minutes ago

Cath 22 ? If you cant be ass'd moving why would others, you're just enabling the enshitifcation to continue

Community is what you make it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's still a tiny echo chamber like it was a couple months ago when I cut back on Lemmy use. It can get pretty repetitive and boring to read. I came back to Reddit because the user base was larger and there were more perspectives I could hear from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 seconds ago

I am still using both. I have never been a big poster, but I like to think I can engage in discussion on just about anything,except Linux, and I really try (but fail) to avoid political shit, and so I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this.

But I'll keep coming back, I'll hopefully contribute in some mental way to the growth, and perhaps niche subs can grow in popularity. One of my personal favorite subs on Reddit is homeimprovement, and it's simply a matter of quantity as far as getting it just as good here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Reading the comments here made me realize something.

It’s nice to have good content for niche communities that you enjoy but that’s always been a tall order. As in, a lot of things have to go right to get that organic community feeling and I’ve honestly always thought of it as a privilege and not a right.

I’ve seen plenty of communities die for various reasons or just been in a position where I didn’t have passion to go and talk about my niche interests.

So what’s my point? Niche communities are the icing on the cake of a good platform. When we mostly have for profit platforms and little main stream interest in standardized alternatives, you got to be more realistic.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I want to get off Reddit but this place is small and is very political. It's a tiny echo chamber. A very very small one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago

Imagine taking the technical and stubborn creme of the crop redditors and that's who's mostly on lemmy. It used to be those who wanted an open source community, but it got it's user bumps during the reddit exodus. I would have never heard of lemmy if it wasn't for the fact I used reddit exclusively through the redditsync app. And when that shut down I came here naturally on the backbone of the developer going here.

I've been here since. The community isn't bad. I still get responses on niche things like gardening and fish tank related issues I had. It's just 3 comments vs 30. But somehow it's better. Because on reddit I can't even get a post posted half the time, and the other half I find out I'm banned from that sub because of a comment I made years ago on a completely unrelated post on a sub I don't even know.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago

Unfortunately, there's no easy way around it. Fediverse is small, and while we should always encourage people's migration, it will probably remain small for the time being.

And freedom to express everything combined with people learning their behavior on algorithmic content will be an issue until a strong Fediverse culture is established. The times of pioneers are over, the times of "truly a place for everyone" are not yet there, and in between, we have a very weird mixture, sometimes bringing out the worst of many people.

I hope Fediverse will survive through this phase, and if yes, bright times will be ahead. But it will take a lot of work. Many non-political communities have already started blocking political content, and for the time being, I believe that's for the better. People need a place to chill and have a corner of their own, not face what they ran away from in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Use one of the apps so you can filter out content. "Trump, Trump's, Republicans, Musk" seems to take care of the problem so far.I think I have some communities blocked and maybe a user or two aswell.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I don't want another app. I use lemmy exclusively in the browser, and that feature is missing :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

Try using one of the PWA's, like Voyager. Just go to vger.app in your browser. It's still a browser-based front end, but it has more features than the default interface

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

You should check out something like Tesserect, it's a 3rd party front end for Lemmy that includes a lot of quality of life features, including word filtering. The demo is here: https://tesseract.dubvee.org/

If you like it, you could petition lemmy.world to offer it as an option directly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, I withheld using an app until very recently for that exact feature. I miss the browser for other features though, not sure what to do. I'm using connect, maybe I'll try a couple others or some other solution.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago

I know I can filter content. I know I can post and be the change I seek. Yet, it feels like an uphill battle.

It doesn't look like you mentioned subscriptions, which gets you out of the 'all' / 'filtering' side of things entirely. But just as with Reddit, you'll need to spend time building your personal feed over time and tweaking it.

The good news is that there's no limit to your subscriptions (unlike Reddit's cap of 50 displayed at any one time), but that you'll need to use the right tools to search the Fediverse to find those communities you want to subscribe to.

The main tool I typically use seems to have a bug right now (based on the recent software upgrade?) but I suspect will be back up in a few days. You might take a look at this, tho, plus other resources.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If the BlueSky migration keeps up the pace, I think it will be a good bet that Reddit to Lemmy will be the next big user migration. There's signs it's already started, within the last year I've been here I've seen the community and sub-communities grow significantly and there's been an increase of self-proclaimed converts over the last several months.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I don't see the connection between Lemmy and Bluesky/reasoning, can you elaborate?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Probably the hope, not completely unfounded, that the migration from one "legacy" (from the 00s) platform to a more recent alternative service - twitter to Bluesky - will help inspire people in other legacy platforms to also realize that alternatives do exist now, they are part of a broader conversation that they weren't a part of even two years ago.

Even a year and a half ago, this place felt like it hadn't yet installed the drywall, the wiring and tubing was incomplete. Now it feels more seamless, ready for a spurt of growth.

"Hey... Bluesky isn't all that bad, I'm glad to be out of the clutches of a billionaire asshole, and not feel utterly lost here", now cue what OP believes a number of people will also think: "Hmm... maybe I'll check out Lemmy, too. See what the alternative to reddit is like."

Some of them could have tried it, didn't like it, might come back and be like: "Hey, Lemmy's not too bad since last I last looked a year ago", and here's a clincher that definitely wasn't here a year and a half ago: "The app works pretty good", and there are a lot of new apps, having a choice gives a sense and weight of legitimacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

I still remember the DDoS attacks

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Block FlyingSquid, it improves the community a huge amount.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 12 hours ago

Block FlyingSquid

You mean the user that moderates some Star Trek stuff and Out of Context Comics? What's the problem..?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

Do it before they drag you into an argument, lose, then ban you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago

You'd be blocking half of Lemmy.

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