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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

why have streaming and not radio?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think of this clip every single time Chris Pirillo pops up in pop culture somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

Just waiting for wax cylinders to come back

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (30 children)

What is everyone's opinions on the sound quality of vinyl?

I understand the collectibility of physical media, and the novelty of owning a vinyl and the machine that plays them. The large art piece that is the case (and often the disc itself). Showing support for your favorite artists by owning physical media from them.

Those are great reasons to collect vinyl.

But a lot of my friends claim vinly is of higher audio quality than anything else, period. This is provably false, but it seems to be a common opinion.

How often have you seen this and what are your thoughts on it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

people are idiots, possibly from inhaling the toxic fumes of unregulated PVC

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I enjoy the warmer sound of vinyl but I buy the albums I love on it because of the lack o convenience. I can't shuffle and I have to actually interact with it every 20ish minutes to flip or change discs. It makes me actually listen to music, track order, mix, and properly enjoy the work that went into the whole album making process.

So I use streaming when I just want something on in the background and vinyl when I want to properly listen to an album.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I read somewhere that about 50% of vinyl owners don't have a player. Presumably that 50% only have very few records and bought them for the looks, but still.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The best explanation I've seen is that music is mixed differently for CD/streaming and vinyl.

For mass market, the move has been to mix for louder bass and similar things. The idea being that it makes the music more popular. But it also makes it difficult to appreciate anything but the bass.

On vinyl, you can't max out bass like that, it won't work on the format. So they have to give it a normal mix instead, making it sound better. In theory CDs should sound better than vinyl, but because of the music production trends, it doesn't currently.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I like this take. it's probably also why I'm gravitating towards cassettes now, you don't need a special mix but you also can't just max the volume because magnetic media saturates and distorts quite quickly.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Technically CD quality digital is superior, but the recording and mixing can have a lot to do with it. For example, it could be that an decades old Dark Side Of The Moon on vinyl (played on proper equipment) could sound better than a modern remastered CD with maximized loudness (See the "loudness wars").

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Vinyl has a slow progression in quality degradation due to friction that creates a certain kind of sound warmth that is pleasing to our ears. This can also be relicated digitally, but the imperfections and feelings associated with the physical ritual actions of loading a record can't.

Vinyl just has more engagement going on despite the sound quality being lower. Kind of like how some people have fondness for fireplaces despite central heating being technically better at maintaining a warm temperature.

Some people confuse the extra engagement with sound quality because a lot of people just don't think things through.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that engagement materially impacts sound quality because you're actively listening.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You could get engagement through digital audio files too, though.

But I'd argue that it doesn't affect the sound quality, but the enjoyment of the sound. The sound waves themselves don't actually change because we're actively engaging.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not an audiophile, but had experience with vinyl and CDs while growing up in the 90s and imo vinyl COULD sound better if you spent a lot of money on high end equipment. But with the equipment us normies had, the cds sounded much better. It had a much lower barrier if you didn't have a large amount of time and money to invest. I'd suspect things are similar now.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know it's not highest quality.

For me, the imperfect sound is what makes a nicer experience. Slight hum, little pop once in a while, teensy skip, etc.

Not to mention that I'm far more inclined to listen to an entire album because of the need to interact with the vinyl to set the needle and flip sides.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I want to know what “other” is that is also clobbering CDs. Can’t say it’s streaming because it’s physical media. The article mentions that half a million cassettes were sold, but that doesn’t really answer the question. That “other” takes up a lot of space relative to CDs so I’m pretty curious.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I dug into the RIAA Source PDF the article references for what "other" means:

"Includes CD Singles, Cassettes, Vinyl Singles, DVD Audio, SACD"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahh, perfect, thanks, I genuinely appreciate it. I should have done that myself, shouldn’t I?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Eh, I have a lot of questions after articles, few are worth going down the rabbit hole for unless others show interest, no worries!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd assume it is for digital downloads.

If I am not purchasing LPs, I try to purchase MP3s/FLAC that I can copy and move around as I please.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hm, digital downloads count as physical media? I might? be able to see the merit in that classification but I’m not entirely convinced.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I should comment AFTER I read the article.

If it is for physical sales only I would have to guess we are looking at things like cassette, USB drives and limited releases on other obscure formats like minidisk.

[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 year ago (35 children)

CDs are just digital files plus waste. Vinyl is a musical ritual.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

CD is still the only way to buy a digital popular music in most countries.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (23 children)

No it's not. The iTunes Music Store is available in the majority of countries in the world. Plus there are other services that cover some of the other countries. Vanishingly few people can choose only a CD.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You don’t own the music you license through iTunes though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You don't own the music you buy on a CD either. You are buying a license to the music and physical storage of it. If you want you can burn your iTunes songs on a CD and you're in the same situation.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

iTunes music store is not available in mainland China, which is 1/5 of the world's population

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do know that the content in the iTunes Store isn't the same in each country?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am aware, but unless you're saying iTunes doesn't sell pop music in most markets, it's not really relevant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Many people don't listen to local music or pop music. It's very relevant if you can only get real music on a physical medium.

And out of everything available iTunes is your first choice too?

Soms people here on Lemmy are even more insufferable than any other social media.

Don't you dare buy a cd with the music you like. BUY FROM ITUNES, while in the next thread they say FUCK APPLE.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Many people don’t listen to local music or pop music.

I was responded to a comment about the availability of pop music.

And out of everything available iTunes is your first choice too?

Yes, the largest digital music store is, naturally, the first one I searched for availability numbers for (119 markets).

I don't really understand the rest of your rant.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Internet access and existing devices would also play a role, but I don't know a region like that to comment further

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