submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

and no one irl even has the decency to agree with me because it's so fucking drilled into the culture that these fucking BuNsInNesSes have a Right to do this because it's a bSUsniEss. like oh yeah they have an office building so they definitely get to analyze my piss because they say they want to. sick fucking freaks.

preaching to the choir a bit on lemmy (or i would hope so at least) but still

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

As long as company pays for it and time spent, its okay.

Wonder if drug tests are actual testing on which can shatter one's mind lol.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I work in a manufacturing facility, so very much a safety sensitive environment.

We are required to be drug tested as part of a pre-employment screening and potentially after incidents. The cool thing is it is part of our collective bargaining agreement that they are not allowed to screen for THC with a urine sample because of how invasive it is.

Mouth swabs are more expensive, but also only screen for THC within 24 hours. I'm sure that number is up for debate as well, but it is a far cry from the 6-8 weeks you can potentially test positive for with a urine screening.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's largely a cash cow industry that exists to absolve employers of liability. It takes on a different form in cases of legitimate safety concerns.

It's not unlike the DEI industry in that way, because while there's legitimate notions behind it, the form it takes in this coercive context is more about what benefits the employer. If your employee's supposed personal resentments are the cause of all the problems with nepotism and favoritism etc... if employees are more focused on their own differences and the employer can claim a moral high ground...

[-] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure, it doesn't matter what I do on their time. But, if my time starts affecting company time, then it becomes a problem. It'd be a pretty bad look if I showed up to work wasted.

For the record, while my job doesn't involve particularly heavy machinery, it does involve moving heavy loads, and it's public-facing.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Place I work explicitly told me they don't drug test. They understood what you do on your time is your business. So long as you don't come to work under the influence of anything.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Like ok maybe drug testing someone who is driving/flying a bunch of people around…I kinda get it. Safety of the public etc.

But drug testing at an office job? Come fucking on. That’s political face. Nothing more.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Do companies really drug test office workers? I'm in the US, work in an office and have never been drug tested by any company I've worked for in the last 10 years

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

They are moving away from it. As they should. Most alcoholics and drug addicts are people that have the money to do so. Meaning they already work somewhere and haven't been tested in ages. At least in my observation. There are the homeless with those issues, but I don't think they are the ones applying to most jobs that are being talked about here.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

But CEOs have a lot of responsibility. That's why they deserve the high salaries. We can't have them coming into work and dropping the stock price by making huge mistakes that effect all of the employees and stock- holders. So, yeah, drug testing.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Yes but that drug testing is to ensure that they keep their cocaine levels high enough. It draws concern if it gets to low and god forbid they gain perspective instead of acting like a drug addict looking for coins in the couch cushions.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Depends on the job. I don't know that I want my kids teacher on meth, or an airline pilot on speed or whatever. Working in education and the aviation industry (and military) are the only times I've been required to take a drug test. Don't know why it would be mandatory for certain industries. Like. Is my food not going to make it to the table from the kitchen because the waiter smoked a joint before his shift?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

This is pretty much how it is in the US. If an employee's drug use is a potential serious liability, most insurance companies require drug testing for them to insure you (generally, I can't imagine companies want to drug test because it is actually quite expensive). Like in the construction industry, a lot of companies drug test because you really shouldn't have someone on drugs operating heavy machinery and you sure as shit won't get insured if you dont. I can't speak to the companies that do it regardless of liability concerns but I work in an engineering position for a large company and no one is drug tested. In fact, no company I have worked for has drug tested.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Easy now. Some of my best days have been spent shitfaced on my roof with a sawz-all.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Some private companies do regardless if the owners are religious. Otherwise it's mostly big corporations, government, gov adjacent, or dangerous ie driving, construction, that kind of thing.

We need a better weed test though. It's bad if someone is high while operating, but 2+weeks detectability is unacceptable.

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