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Mutual aid spam is becoming a problem on the Fediverse.

And to be sure, I'm not against mutual aid. What I am against is spam.

This person has not verified who she is -- or even if the profile picture is hers. Additional research on her name states she is a scammer with a record of grifting. I am therefore skeptical that any donations will help anyone in need.

Folks, please be cautious with mutual aid requests. Yes, people sometimes need help. But people also lie.

@[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is nothing, on hexbear there's a person pretending to be like half a dozen different Palestinians with different fraudulent GoFundMe. They cook up a new persona like every other week using pictures they scrape from the media and then run it through an AI filter.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't boost it. If it violates your instance's rules (e.g. it's a scam), report it. Unfollow people that boost it. Mute/block the poster or their content.

I don't mind seeing it, and I don't think it is a problem (yet).

Agree that caution is warranted for any request of funds, whatever the requestor wants to call it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

I blocked MutualAid-related tags months ago because there is only so much begging and sob stories that a person can take.

I feel sorry for people who have problems and situations so desperate that they feel the best way to fix them is asking random people on the internet for money, but I just don't know if I can trust them and I absolutely know I can't help everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I would just reply with a guide to shoplifting 😉

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yep I've already gotten a couple messages like this with an image of a random lady attached:

Hi, I’m Nicole! I’m a proud Polish girl from Toronto (29 y/o)

I’m currently taking the pre-health sciences program at George Brown College hoping to get into the medical field someday!

You can add me on Friendica: [REDACTED]

and join my discord here: [REDACTED]

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I was just offered 500$ to be someone's friend. Of course, I refused - my friendship is worth much more than that!

But it's... concerning that we've got this sudden spike in spam.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tell them I'll do it for $495

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who is seriously stupid enough to fall for this?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My cat just died chewing through the power cable on my graphics card so I need a new 5090, please help brother

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I can mail you a brand new cat. Good enough?

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[–] [email protected] 178 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep.

I feel the fediverse should lean towards “overly aggressive” when combatting spam, before it takes root, even with all the negatives that brings.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

I agree. E-mail is the original federated service. And 50 years later e-mail spam remains a big problem. I hope Fedi projects can get spam mitigations on-par with email before spammers start getting serious about this place.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

@atomicpoet @fediverse

Thankfully that would almost certainly be a scam in my country and many others.

I am an asthmatic. Well controlled by a thrice daily cocktail of medicines. All free at the point of need. Paid for by our taxes.

The true scandal is the countries that make this plea possible.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago

That's not mutual aid that's charity. Mutual aid is mutually beneficial to both parties.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's not mutual aid, that's scam spam. Report it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@atomicpoet @fediverse THX for putting this clearly on the table, I had this scepticism for some time already ...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@regineheidorn @fediverse Yeah, people I know boosted her messages—which implies they may have given her money. The thing is, that grifter’s success is going to attract other grifters if this problem isn’t addressed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

@atomicpoet @fediverse Yes. And we know this from the early e-mail days already ...

[–] [email protected] 123 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't think mutual aid can work well like that on the internet. Works great in person, works OK for GoFundMe-type stuff like "I had something happen to me that will take a lot of money to fix". Too easy to scam and grift for small stuff like this though, where for all you know they're just a very clever dog on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

I for one am not willing to feed a milk-bone addiction, no matter how good a boy he is.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Charity is not the same as mutual aid anyways, even though I have also seen "mutual aid" requests on the Fediverse that were clearly asking for charity.

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