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Image alt text: An image of Steam's top 10 best-selling games at the time of posting, three of which are marked as "prepurchase"

I checked the Steam stats and noticed that in the top 10 best selling games by revenue, there's three games that aren't even out yet. If we ignore the Steam Deck and f2p games, it's three out of four games. They have also been in the top 100 for 4, 6, and 8 weeks respectively, so people just keep on buying them. I would love to know why people keep doing this, as the idea of pre-ordering is that there is a physical copy of a game available for you on release, but this is not a concern with digital items. So after so many games lately being utterly broken on release, why do people not wait until launch reviews to buy the game? If you touch a hot stove and get burned multiple times, when does one learn?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I get lost in the hype and I do, last one was armored core and cyberpunk before that

I will say this, the hype is also entertainment and I had more fun with the buildup to cyberpunk than with the game itself and I'm glad I experienced it all, steam servers crashing was wild

The real cyberpunk was the friends we made along the way unironically

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Not digital. I used to preorder popular games way back before digital was a thing as supply could be tight, but it makes zero sense in a digital world where they can't run out of supply.

Especially with how the trend today is release and drop hotfixes (or in some cases just laugh to the bank) I won't drop $$$ until its in a good state

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Absolutely not!

(I pre-ordered stalker 2. Can't help that I'm a Stan for the series and mod scene. I was happy with this purchase.)

It can be hard to get over the urge if you're a fan of a series. The next game MUST be better... right? It's a hard thing to truly get too mad at others since it's pretty much human nature, even if we can all agree it's not healthy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If I have trust in the developers that the game won't be an absolute shitfest (i.e. they have an okayish track record) and I want to play on day one to be part of the community, yes. That said, the last game was Elden Ring and the next is Monster Hunter Wilds, so that doesn't happen very often.

Nightreign and Subnautica 2 are also on the list, I'm not too hyped about anything else this year.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

All they have to do is add a skin or some shit as a pre-order bonus and people will deposit money. It's absolutely crazy, especially with the state almost every launch is in these days.

Big games are like 50% off after a few months anyway, no point buying those at all until then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I mean, Civ is a pretty established line of games. If you are into those things you probably know you’re going to get the new one. Same for Monster Hunter, especially with this one returning to world’s formula, which was hugely popular, and having multiple betas people could have tried to before prepurchasing. I assume kingdom come deliverance is the same.

No issue preordering a game I know I’m going to get either way.

But with new games, or AAA shit, or titles I may enjoy but are not a guaranteed buy, then preordering is stupid as hell.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

If I know I'd be buying day 1 anyway, yes I'll preorder. I know I'll be playing Avowed day one because it looks like my cup of tea, and I'll be playing Wilds day one because I have a ton of friends who want to play it together.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes. After clocking up 10,000 hours on Civ VI. Civ VII can take my money!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You've spent like a sixth of the time since release playing it? Damn. What's your playtime across all the games?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Well... I will admit a lot of those hours were from falling asleep with the game running.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

As far as I remember, I've never bought anything in my life that I couldn't enjoy immediately after payment (not counting delivery time if it had to be ordered and shipped). I did buy early access games, or games at full price on release day (twice only, Overwatch and Baldur's Gate 3), though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

If I actually have faith in the developer, plan on getting the game at launch, and it has some extra in-game goodies, I might pre-order it.

I pre-ordered Elden Ring and SOTE. I won't pre-order Nightreign because I'm not sure if it will be something I like, as it doesn't even sound like an official Fromsoft game; it sounds like a mod made by a teenager.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

No. Heck, I don't even play Early Access games (with rare exceptions, like Satisfactory). I'm not paying to be a beta tester.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Yes, why? That's the stupidest thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Last game I preordered was World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade and I stood in line for 12 hours to make sure I was the very first to have it. Haven't preordered any game since then. They weren't distributed digitally back then, so running out of 'copies' was a real thing.

Now, I perpetually buy games that are 1-2 years old. They've been patched, they've been balanced, they're stable, and I can watch someone on Twitch beforehand to decide if it's worth purchasing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I was the one trying to talk the friend group out of pre-ordering for years. Oddly enough, I haven't needed to do that in a while.

Might have something to do with how the last time that discussion happened, the game in question was Fallout 76.

I didn't even have to say "told you so" for it to never come up again.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Last game I pre-ordered was Cyberpunk 2077. Yeah, it's a fun and really good now but when it released it was basically unplayable until Phantom Liberty was released. I had already said I would never pre-order a game and I made an exception for CDPR and got Cyberpunk, and I was immediately burned. For real-sies this time, no more exceptions. I will never pre-order another game until the day that I die.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

There’s no point because you do not know how the games are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

it would have to be one hell of a sale or a ton of perks added, and be something i was gonna buy at release anyway--which i do not do often: the last game i bought the week of release was hl2.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I'll do it to support indie devs. Though I haven't ever done it through Steam -- just Kickstarter

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

No. Any game I might possibly consider pre-ordering isn't going to magically disappear. I was gonna make a comment about how there's probably no guarantee about return policy on Steam for pre-order games, but I looked it up and can't make the argument I was gonna.

Either way, I would much prefer to wait for a game to be on sale on a much later date because at that point any major game ruining glitches/bugs should hopefully be patched and price will be cheaper. Generally, I don't tend to buy games over a certain price anymore. Price varies, but right now it's over $20USD since I'm on a college financial aid budget. And no, I don't include $19.99 as under the budget because that's absolutely marketing bullshit that I think should die.

Also, I don't like pre-ordering games since you usually don't get any real world bonus items anymore (at least from triple AAA titles anymore). Granted, I've only ever done 2 IRL pre-orders in my life, but I was extremely disappointed about not getting anything besides access to free DLC for the Borderlands Pre-Sequel game compared to how I got a full guide book for BioShock Infinite, which was more than enough to make me thrilled (even if I've never actually used it once).

Plus, at this point, pretty much every single pre-order game I see (unsurprisingly all triple AAA) is a game I know I'm not gonna like, so it's pointless for me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

theres no difference between preorder and buying on release date

so if youre buying it anyway, may as well preorder and cancel it if reviews are sketchy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

And you can even return it, if it's released and you haven't installed it... Or if it's on Steam, and you played it less than 2 hours.

There really isn't a lot of reason to strenuously avoid pre-ordering if you're pretty sure you'll buy it at release.

And even better, a lot of games have pre-installs that can save you time at release. You could be playing the game instead of being mad that it isn't downloaded yet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

No, but I have purchased Early Access games on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Honestly, I’ve got lots of hours in Early Access games. That said, they were like $20 when I bought them in EA and as content gets added and they get closer to launch, the price goes up.

I don’t think that’s the same as pre-orders though.

The only digital game I’ve ever preordered was City Skylines 2. I was on vacation the day it came out and didn’t want to miss out on playtime and waste my PTO. Definitely worth it, and I enjoyed it and the lead up to release. (I’m on the fenced whether I enjoy it more than the first, but that’s mostly because I’ve got so many add ons for the first that the second seems like it’s missing things. But it worked well for me and I got hours and hours of playing in that day.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Absolutely no reason to, you pay more for a buggier version. I generally wait until there's a good sale.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You are assuming the reviews have any bearing on whether I want to play the game. This is a risky assumption.

When Cyberpunk was busted and everybody was hating that's what prompted me to jump in. I went and got a PS4 physical version of the 1.0 last-gen release when I could find one on sale, even though I primarily played the game on PC. It's one of my favorite gaming artifacts. I like it more than any collector's edition nonsense.

Also, what reviews? I don't know if I know what "reviews" for videogames even mean anymore.

Anyway, to answer your actual question, if there is a discount at launch (which is increasingly a thing, which is kind of sad) or a decent preorder bonus I can prepurchase. I don't mind. Otherwise I just get things when I get things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Occasionally, there will be a game I want to play as soon as it releases - even then, I’ll maybe wait until the last hour before release to “pre order”, just as one last fuck you to the concept.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

There are very few reason why I might choose to pre-order a game:

  • I know for sure I want to play the game on launch day and dont want to deal with downloading the game all day
  • the pre-order comes with physical goods that I want
  • the game is made by FromSoftware or Yoko Taro, I know I am basically guaranteed to like anything from either of these
  • the game is part of an intellectual property that I like and I want that property to be successful, and I would have purchased the game anyways

Thats really it. Generally niche instances, I don't find myself pre-ordering games all that often anymore. I pre-ordered the Collectors Edition of Elden Ring, the White Snow edition of NieR Replicant 1.22 (still waiting on that Gestalt 1.22 DLC). But other than those two, I haven't felt compelled to pre-order anything else. I learned about Dino Crisis on GOG too late if it even had a pre-order period, but I did buy it on release day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

No, I was thinking about civ7 but was unsure because, while firaxis is very talented, I do not trust 2k, once they added denuvo I decided to not even buy it at launch even if the reviews are positive (and £120 for the founders edition is stupid, especially since, if the game is updated like all previous civs, it will be necessary).

I will be waiting for denuvo to be removed (because it always is) and for a sale.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm going to preorder monster hunter wilds, I'll do it the day before and pre-download it. Does that count?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Only if it's a game I'm going to play regardless. I pre ordered FH4 and FH5 and I easily have 2k+ hours in both of those games.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

No because it's stupid to preorder digital goods. I'll happily join early access to help fund projects I find interesting lile enshrouded.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No, one time there was a highly anticipated game that I really wanted.

Walked into the store after checking a couple reviews and bought it full price.

Ask the clerk, he confirmed there is never shortages or anything like that for physical disks.

Imo, there is even less of a reasons to preorder digital copies, what are they gonna do, run out of bandwidth?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Ask the clerk, he confirmed there is never shortages or anything like that for physical disks.

Small town?

When stuff only released on disc stores can only get so many copies. Even if it’s a 100 or so, there’s no guarantee they’ll have enough on launch day to even satisfy demand. People would line up the night before as well.

So if you wanted to make sure you got a copy of a good game to play day 1 with your buddies, you HAD to preorder and hope they weren’t out, since they also held stock to sell day of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

No, there is a finite amount, agreed. However, the cost of making and shipping is minimal in the overall production cost. If no they need 100, shipping 120 is easy. Any excess can be used for following weeks and months sales. The gamer doesn’t want to miss out, but the company is much more likely to take active steps to ensure they don’t miss out on a sale. In the age of digital, even if they did sell out, it can still be pirchaesed online. So, it is high risk, low reward to preorder.

So, while missing out on day one is possible, it’s extremely unlikely and so preordering is basically a free loan and handing over money before there is a chance to assess quality.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I think there's only been one game that I've pre-ordered digitally, and it was Cyberpunk 2077 on GoG the day it was supposed to release early for pre-orders.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I almost never preorder any game I'm not 100% sure I'll play no matter what. Sometimes I'll do it with online games in 90% sure on bc my internet is horrible and I like being able to get started on the download asap

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

For example I'm gonna preorder the new Fatal Fury game even though I'm not super confident in SNK to put out a functional game, but I know it'll have fun gameplay and worst case scenario it'll get fixed in a while. Being able to download early is worth for me even if I won't download in time to play early, and worst case scenario it's completely nonfunctional and I just refund it until it works

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