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Ding Ding Ding

It comes down to this, the heavyweight desktop championship between two powers in the Linux world.

In the blue corner, we have the mighty KDE, KDE comes with a wealth of customization options and good features with every update. It serves a nice alternative to windows 10 or 11s desktop and itself as an OS.

KDE has got so good that even legendary distro, Fedora, wishes to use it in its dealings.

In the grey/black corner, we have GNOME, This is a heavy distro with some ram usage, but it strives to be a simple desktop for usage and has had some good features every new version it comes packaged in as well.

GNOME has had a long history much like KDE, But controversial changes from its older brother.

However.. big name distros like Ubuntu have used it across millions of machines in different sectors.

What desktop do you favour and why? Explain your thoughts.

Round 2... GO!

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

You didn't mention KDE's lack of any adequate stability. That's what makes it incomparable to GNOME. They serve completely different use cases.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

KDE Plasma is wonderfully stable if you mean reliable, if you mean unchanging then yeah, it has quite a few changes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

i know i'll get downvoted but this was my experience last time i tried kde a few weeks ago (kubuntu and fedora kde):

  • cool animations but stuttery as hell

  • browser randomly consuming 10% of cpu, making everything else slow as if it was using 100% (tested: firefox, librewolf, floorp, brave)

  • programs refusing to install

  • programs refusing to open

  • editing the taskbar often resulted in all the items going on top of each other, i couldn't move them until i rebooted. couldn't find an option to reset the whole thing

  • i put cpu and gpu temps in the system monitor and it always borked after it had been closed a few minutes

  • kded5 or something like that constantly popped up wanting to create a new wallet. couldn't figure out how to disable. guides pointed to a configuration file that didn't exist on my system

idk if it's an nvidia thing but none of these happen on other DEs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's more of a distro problem than KDE. I have nvidia toi, and I admit, it bugs sometimes out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

well, cinnamon works great on mint and fedora, and i have had less (none) gpu related issues on mint than i did even on windows. kde wouldn't play nice with my old pc components either and gpu is the only thing that i kept, so i would suspect it's some weirdness between my gpu and kde.

and too bad i can't go with amd because i need hdmi 2.1

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My experience of anything Ubuntu based is that it is buggy as hell. I have no knowledge of Fedora.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

well yeah i tried ubuntu a couple years back and i remember having some issues with it too.

weird thing is that mint has never had any issues even though it's based on ubuntu. not even nvidia related issues.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I meant reliability. It's bad if you use ANY feature besides virtual desktops and app opening. In my understanding "stability" is stability of ALL features of the program, no matter how rarely they're used.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

It really isn't, at least in my experience. And I have an Nvidia card!

All software beyond a moderate complexity has bugs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It really isn't, at least in my experience

works in my machine is an opinion not an argument. Different people have different expectations and experiences.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Doesn't work on my machine is an opinion not an argument. Different people have different expectations and experiences.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

It really isn't, at least in my experience. And I have an Nvidia card!

Oh then it makes sense why you argued. However it's important to keep in mind that experience can vary among users. For example, in my case Plasma was very unstable on an Intel iGPU.

All software beyond a moderate complexity has bugs.

Not an excuse tbh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You didn't mention KDE's lack of any adequate stability. That's what makes it incomparable to Gnome.

But then also:

However it's important to keep in mind that experience can vary among users.

Oh the irony.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago

It's not irony. Floating defects and hardware-specific fixes exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Not an excuse tbh.

The thing to do is participate in the beta programs and report any bugs you find, as you're having so much instability you would be an ideal participant whereas me with my smooth running wouldn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's not what I'm saying. KDE releases untested and buggy builds to stable. It makes it unstable software. If you're a KDE fan, I understand, but don't reject objective facts.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What part of

All software beyond a moderate complexity has bugs.

didn't you understand?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The part where it says that it makes it stable and also the part where it says that GNOME is unstable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

https://gitlab.gnome.org/groups/GNOME/-/issues

KDE doesn't seem to give you an overall view

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You didn't mention KDE's lack of any adequate stability

What year is it

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

2024, mister/miss, and I'm talking about Plasma 6.